A lot has been said already about the current state of twinking, but I believe this picture sums it all up. I could go even further in that analogy and say that we’re the third class people on it that didn’t get a lifeboat, while those first class BoA leveling “twinks” did.
But while most of the third class people did die, some survived – even though they spent countless hours in the freezing water. And that’s exactly who we are, because if you’re still reading this, you haven’t given up. I salute you for that.
Pre-3.2 twinking is dead. Gone are the days of battleground pops in every battlegroup – no matter which bracket you played in. That doesn’t mean twinking itself is dead, though. It’s still there in all of its former glory, but it has taken a pure form. The “twinks” that played to oneshot lowbies are gone. They’re the cancer we had to get rid of, and 3.2 did that for us. I can’t believe I actually called them twinks, because that’s quite an insult towards real twinks like you and me. Patch 3.2 was our chemotherapy – It killed some of our good cells, but it got rid of the cancer that was getting the better of us.
I was in toprated arena teams during TBC, and I was in a top 10 PvE guild during Vanilla, but none of that can compete with fun I had playing my twinks. It simply has a magical appeal to me, and I hope some of you feel the same way. I could level to 80 and become the 99999999th player with full ulduar gear. I could do rated arena again and ride Ghostcrawler’s Get Wotlk’d rollercoaster every new season. I could kill my social life and join a top PvE guild. I could join a Warsong Gulch full of random honorfarming players I don’t know, while hoping that this time half the team ain’t afk. Fuck that shit, I’ll play my twink – thank you very much.
I’ll know who I’m playing with, and against. I’ll badmouth some of them on the official forums, while I praise others. I’ll protect someone fishing for his hat, and I’ll kill the level 80 whores that want the AGM achievement. I’ll help a fellow twink out, without expecting anything in return. That’s the very essence of twinking. You don’t have to do heroics, you don’t have to grind honor, and you don’t have to grind arena points. Everyone’s there because they want to be there, even though it offers no tangible reward. But we know why we do it, and that’s something few outsiders will ever understand.
I’m getting a bit carried away here, sorry about that. My point is, if there’s a will, there’s a way. Don’t limit yourself. If your battlegroup and its respective bracket isn’t getting wsg pops, then do something about it. Transfer to another battlegroup. If you smoke, smoke a bit less and save your $25/€20 that way. If you have a girlfriend, make something yourself instead of buying her an expensive necklace they probably won’t wear because it doesn’t fit most of their outfits. Sell a kidney, prostitute yourself, or tell your friends you forgot your wallet next time you go out. And if you really don’t want to spend money, reroll. Meet new people, make new friends, make a death knight. It really isn’t that hard. You don’t need a main, you don’t need BoA’s. It’s all in your head. Why don’t you try out a new bracket in a battlegroup that’s getting frequent pops? Again, don’t limit yourself. Take a chance, you might like what you find.
We can’t get stuck in our old mindset. Other brackets, other battlegroups, other twinksites: they’re not your enemy. Embrace them. The PWN Depot is a perfect example of the old MINE IS BETTER mindset. Twink Info has always reached out to Comicus, but he literally gave us the finger. He never gave us a chance, and because of that the PWN Depot is dead now:
Don’t make the same mistake. Give it a shot. Don’t wait for a miracle to happen, because it won’t.
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You sound like the sorta person I could ask to try to get up a campaign to try to raise the popularity (And therefor population) of twinks in an organized manner to try to reduce que times some by banking on the fact that players who chose not to twink because it risked griefing lowbies and newbies can now twink without causing trouble for those who are levelling through.
that post you just made is so true. I believe everything about it. You stated the truth and stated it good. You should write most post like this.
That’s a pretty damning traffic tracker.
Is it indicative of pwndepot users being the prototypical “I wanna gank lowbies and undergeared players LOLZ!” mindset of their user base? Well if traffic indicators are tied to patch changes it is a resounding yes.
I NEVER saw posts here dedicated to ganking lowbies, tales of camping leveling players and harassment in general of PVE minded players on servers. Everything was truly geared to competition and building “best of” for any class in any bracket.
I’ll say it again when they started removing enchants, leg armors, glyphs, head enchants etc. I knew that it was the beginning of the end. It just far worse faster than I ever imagined.
I’d love to think I could log back into my old account and go back to competition but the people my BG forums that I twinked with and against for a year and a half are lamenting its a ghost town in non-XP BG’s. I refuse to pay to transfer to remedy a problem that never should have existed in the first place.
Sorry.. But Pwndepot is NOT dead, its just not that active.. We are still some that a proud to contribute to it, and when ever we need a GOOD response, we post it there instead of TI.
But i agree on you that a real twink would help out any fellow twink that would like to come to 19 bracket. I myself bought 10 epic tabards for my friends(because we feel pro with them :> ) and i gave away my entire bank to support rerollers, and atm i’m selling items that i’ve bought for -75% of what i paid, so we can get more in BlackoutEU.
and yea 20 dollars is something that EVERYONE should have, since this is an expensive game, and if you can’t afford it you shouldn’t play it.
Twinkinfo > Pwndepot just check the statistics.
@ Conrose:
That’s certainly an interesting take on it. I think you’re right, we can appeal to those players now that 3.2 got rid of that twink stigma. We’ll have to give them a place to build and play their twink, though. Right now, twinks are still a bit too scattered and afraid to transfer.
@ Reessagny:
Thank you
It came from the heart.
@ Eveill
There were a lot of good contributions at the PWN Depot as well, but sadly newer twinks that asked a question that some deemed ’stupid’ got battered.
I understand your frustration with your current battegroup, but perhaps you could make a new guild with your old friends on a battlegroup that’s getting frequent pops? With a handful of people and a DK or two to boost eachother, you could be up and running in a week or two.
@ Foisto
I salute all your efforts for Blackout’s 19 bracket. I don’t agree with your PWN Depot argument, though. You say that you only get a “GOOD” response at the PD, and that’s exactly the “mine is better” attitude I talked about in my post. It’s the reason why the PD is “inactive”. Inactive is just a euphemism for dead, though.
very good article ishh!
only con : everyone that denies 1 shotting undergeared and/or unskilled noobs here and there isnt fun lies into his pocket. It IS fun – unless it becomes regular action. The balance between sophisticated play and just let the dog out is the clue. Always epeening in arena and bathing in the foam of own self proclaimed glory is as bad as 1 button gameplay noob shooting 24/7 !
Its bad when unskilled naps just own ppl becauye they have unbeatable gear advance –
and yea- i really dont like em -
– but if a skilleld one enjoys it here and there – its absolute legit.
I did r14 in a fixed premade over 6 months back the old days – never seen games like that anymore after blizz fucked up premades with multiqueues(afk jumper leechers 4tw), tactical bg play is long gone at 70 and 80. I played highrated arena in tbc but didnt enjoy it. Arena is just to small compared all the other content – its really hillarious – claustophobic.
so yea – too many “twinks” lost faith , dont post in suggestion forums as they should do , and many good (non-radiated aka normal minded twinks) stopped to play their chars due to the elitist attitude that can be found among the remaining. Wish they would behave a little more normal – that would appleal more palyers mho.
It certainly would take a bit of organization and work, and I’d imagine that excessive usage of DK’s could play a major role in such a campaign if we can get people to donate some(Erm, alot) of time (And Sanity) to run newbie twinks through dungeons while training and farming up mats for Enchanting with one who dedicates a portion of their time focusing just on the few Rep Enchants that get used. Also, 1 or 2 people can work at farming up some Twink BoE’s. Start off by scheduling a time and day for the new twink players on both sides to que up for Non-XP BGs so that at least there is a time of the week where they know they can give it a try.
Would more or less require working both sides of a BG at the same time, focusing on a single server at a time at first until the effort in that Battlegroup can sustain itself to an extent.
Well put, Ishh! Good read.
Well hot damn… Ishh well done & good taste. Up until the Pwndepot part it was on point.
I guess I now know what feet taste like… eww
I love this blog for some reason, great analogies.
Great blog! Well written and to the point, gj.
good blog, good attitude, and good advice
not sure i have the stomach to follow it though
leveling in AV is so easy and actually quite fun for a change besides the afkers oh well. point being make a DK and level in AV for a few days, you can still get your heirlooms
Very good post! Only thing that is missing is mentioning the “Both teams must be full for battleground to pop” rule that comes with patch 3.2.2. This makes it extra important for all the remaining twinks to focus on one battlegroup (and date/time) if they want twinking to survive.
We have seen a slow but steady increase in player participation for the 29 bracket in Cruelty and i still beleive we can make it. But it’s very close and can still go either way. As long as one or two players can decide about the survival of a whole bracket there is no place for epeen wars and the like (there never was actually but in earlier times we could have the luxury to indulge in such actions without any consequences)
Hi Issh,
Here Mamytwink from http://www.wow-twink.com !
Great article, you just have the same ideas as me. Just loved it.
I also liked the conclusion with pwndepot. I remember the time I had a call with drayner and we both talked about the philosophy of Comicous.
We were saying that Pwndepot was killing hilmsef… They always wanted to play solo and now they are reaping what they sowed.
Anyway, we should have a talk
We miss you !
Oh, btw, you should come back on wow-twink and post a bit
Mamytwink
Completely agree on those wise words.
Next step: we have to organize and pickup a bg to stay togheter and minimize queue time.
What about blackout for EU ?
PD users didn’t quit posting there because they were farming lowbies, we just “rerolled” to TI.
@Foisto
“Sorry.. But Pwndepot is NOT dead, its just not that active..”
The puppy isn’t dead it just isn’t moving any more.. *cough*
Pwndepot bled to death a long time ago – aided by the moderators who would rather let the people rampant flame with their stupidity and ignorance than step in and size control.
Every time somebody contradicted or challenged the theories of this “select crowd” they’d get flamed to bits and damned be what evidence they could produce to show that they were in fact correct.
For along time pwndepot boasted that they were the “elitist jerks” of twinking – fraid that stopped being true now they are just the ignorant jerks of twinking.
And considering that even refering to this site on pwndepot was grounds for a ban don’t you think it a tad hypocritical to hand round here?
a lot of bile there, but well deserved.
i have done alot of hobbies such as competitive racing HO slot cars, 1/24 slot cars, 1/12 RC cars, 1/10 RC cars. technology and rule changes for them were like WOW patches. loopholes in the rules and things governing bodies didn’t know about like WOW exploits/loopholes eventually get discovered, then either allowed or eliminated. really no different than WOW.
many probably have never been involved with RC Car racing. but WOW is the only video game to me that mirrors inlife hobbies.
a ruling body make battery cell type rules and limitations that caused many to form new ruling bodies to still run their status quo. overall both sides suffered, however the ones that wanted to keep the old cell rules tried to hold races and functions, organize but in a short time faded. i.e. twinking
overall i see the same thing already happening in a video game. infact already is.
players who haven’t played their twinks in awhile are logging in to see their enchants are gone. some of them i talked to have deleted or popped their player past 20.
players returning back to the game that don’t know about the XP turn-off are going into the BG and accidently popping. saw this in XP BG’s many times, player flames BG chat wanting to know HTF he leveled.
some players that were working on twinks have stopped to see what is going on. they do this by gathering info from others.
the game has changed, and many are trying to hold together what we have. but overall too many players know nothing of the moves to certain battlegroups. so geared twinks are nothing but cool bank alts. i’m on RUIN and have two 29’s, two 39’s, one 69 that i will not pay to move and end up on a battlegroup that will ore than likely fail in 6 or less months. they will bank or farm. i will also not run them to 49 just to hopefully play on sunday at certain times. i get fail flash backs.
i have 6 players to play in 19 bracket on RUIN, however play times are now restricted too. competitive pugs only happen at certain times of the day. can’t play early in the morning no more or late at night. IMO, the big move to RUIN hasn’t really helped. i see many players getting disgusted and AFKing out on lopsided games and etc. one team scores the first point and 2-3 players bail. real fail and poor conduct
having 4-5 guilds to do 10-10 premades will get old after awhile, just a band-aid like i have seen in other hobbies. also many Guilds that claim to run 10-mans rarely do, infact they are lucky at times to muster up 3-5 players to go in. most the time you see 1-3 max from some of the best twink guilds on my server mannoroth. some will of course say that i won’t know of a 10-10 if i’m not in it. well i track our rival twink guilds using WHO feature just like they track us. i play alot of players, so this gives me a indication of when to switch to my twink 19’s.
AMEN!!
A good article, not sure about the metaphors. It’s not like it was our maiden voyage, and our scene was never as glamorous as the Titanic. Cancer metaphors are a bit too Kuttyian in flavour.
We’ve got to think about how we can attract ’serious’ twinks. This message is not going to do it. Perhaps the answer is to lure high rated 80 players from arena, to 39 – which can only come from a water-tight argument.
Secondly, we need a general ‘mission statement’ (sorry) on the front page of twinkinfo/pwndepot/wowtwink, so as soon as people load up the page, the message hits them like a tidal charm.
It should include the sales pitch, and where to go, and who to contact for each bracket, horde and alliance, US/EU.
We need to demonstrate a reason for moving from other areas of wow, to our respective brackets. Perhaps not evening moving – but an alternate entertainment stream in the game.
Without wanting to market ‘our’ 39 EU scene, I would just like to quickly mention the bracket, so you can make comparisons/suggestions.
We have the players – there are at least 60 potential players, but organisation is erratic, and some people are just not prepared to give even more than a passing glance to arena – It’s futile for them to spend hours in vain, with no fruitful results.
Too many people are jumping *ship*. Simple logic tells you that 19 is always going to be the most active bracket, overall. A few bits of propaganda about joining 60, and people are there like ‘a rat up a drain pipe’. I’m not sure on the statistics but you probably need a mean user base of at least 200 people to guarantee regular WSG action, unless the organisation is great, and people are playing in similar time-zones, with similar working hours/education hours.
The point is this – the answer is not to move bracket, but to try and solve the problem within your bracket, unless you are in a really obscure bracket like 79. As Ishh said, you do not need BOA’s – just careful item optimization. You don’t need to even transfer – with refer a friend you can be level 24 in under 8 hours of playtime. Make contact with GM’s of other guilds, they should be able to verify if you are serious – perhaps you can even get some funding. Some GM’s have near infinite gold.*
We need a think-tank, lets get the ball rolling, and a few irons in the fire.
Wow nothing like spending a couple of years moderating Pwndepot to feel like actually I did fuck all according to this… yay…
Anyway, what you say is true – people do need to start making an active effort instead of just sitting around moaning and complaining that their WSG never pops. Ishh has pretty much researched which battlegrounds are the most active and if you can’t be arsed (or afford) to transfer you’re limiting yourself and the rest of the twink community from some epic fights!
-X
yea. Blackout Battlegruop, Is way to be for 19’s and 49’s. 29 is a tie between cruelty and others. 39 a tie with cyclone.
But I am playing in 49 and we have a very good time at the moment. My guild has 53 ,49 twink members, and it really helped getting ride of the “gankers”
. So what we have left on Blackout is, hardcore twinks!
Guild name
http://www.49twinks.com/onehomeeu.html
and
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?sid=1&topicId=10546325753&pageNo=1
GL finding a New home
PS: this is NOT a lie or scam post. it is true we have matches certainly every night, with a few exceptions, and most people allready migrated here.
I think the article was well written, but unfortunately, it is an attempt to revive a terminally ill horse. There are many, many reasons people are / were quitting twinking (and wow) but let it suffice to say Blizzard decided the “playstyle” is undesirable and have made it decidedly unpleasant (on purpose) to play it.
Blizzard seems to be making their game design decisions by asking a Magic 8 Ball, so I really don’t hold out much hope for any real improvements ever again. All their best talent is busy working on the latest iteration of Diablo, and no doubt, they will be late on that, and it will be incomplete / buggy, just like WoTLK was on release.
I think some people are just so addicted to wow, they can’t walk away, no matter how crappy it becomes. That’s sad. They’ve ruined twinking. It’s not coming back. Wow is on the downside of its life cycle. Better start looking for something else to do imho.
the “playstyle” is undesirable…..is still occurring, thanks to Blizzard making heirloom BoA gear OP compared to most in game items nor in many instances no equals exist.
players with 80’s have the license and gear w/enchants that players on new accounts don’t have. real shame in lower brackets.
their answer… this is cycle and they won’t be there always due to them leveling out…….so far this isn’t happening. the complaints in the BGs that earn XP are abundant. BGs are decided at the start by who ever has the most BoA twinks. this makes the BGs no better than before other than if you want a alternative to questing and get some XP in the BGs.
infact many players are deleting their BoA twinks at 20 to 30 and rerolling new ones. many this is the future of twinking…real sad
Twinking is dead.
@nerdrage
twinking is full alive – its everything there to have twink games running , IT IS ONLY THE PLAYERS who need to act.
Means brackets have to gather up. EG 39EU -> cyclone
Means players have to be bit more optimistic than this stupid fatalistic “xx is dead” attitude
Much more theory crafting and math was done on PwnDepot, Twinkinfo users seem to ask fucking stupid questions. The reason a lot of us are here is because PwnDepot is dead and this is the only part of the community left.
I’ve always been an optimistic, like you say. But the fact that there is only one WSG in one week is killing my hopes. And THIS won’t change. I used to play warsong all day long and arena only bores me.
Start WoW and play some twink games.. no more.
As for myself.. quit forever, finally.
I envy you for being able to compose such a fucking great article
Twinking is better then ever for me.
XP off has meant nothing but battlegrounds with good people like a premade every game.
XP off has also gave me GREAT chances to improve some twinks close to leveling.
25 minute timer sux…so does boa but atleast twinks hp isnt 2k like it used to.
its normal and balnced now and take more skill to play with lower health points.
Ques arent that bad! and you have arenas
iremeber pre-bc there was no such thing as arenas and cross realm bgs and the twink community was very small and we would still wait a hour to get into a battleground.
you guys need to open your eyesssss
twinks who are whinning and quitting are just the ones that liked to pick on the low levels becuse they couldnt play with the big boys
Nice job m8, very well writen blog… now get ur ass online!
Let’s face it twinking on WoW is over. There will always be some small, weird group of misfits that try and make it work. It seems like this group will all migrate to Ruin and then overtime die out. You don’t believe me? Bookmark this response and come back in six months. I’m a product manager and what Blizzard did is called making a product ‘obsolete’.
Obviously anyone that goes to pwndepot is a clueless moron, just read the absence of content and you’ll discover this. It’s the same effect on 49twinks.com, its run by a someone who has no idea on how to manage a forum.
It’s over guys, you spend more time posting on sites like this that have *no effect* on what you want and *no time* posting where it counts…Blizz forums. Way to go… you’re as clueless as the morons that stopped going to 49twinks.com and pwndepot.com.
BTW… wizkhalifa is a twink hater and is just trying to screw up our community. Leave us alone and f-off.
Sadly, I agree it’s over. I transfered my twink to Ruin, I get a game every 45 mins or so… not too bad but its boring since the rules have changed and you only get to play WSG. Blizz killed twinking with an iron hand in a velvet glove. Behsten and Slahts are obvious ‘tips o the hat’ to the twinking community, no-xp games are exactly what we want but with the result that we can’t play and its not really worth playing anymore.
WoW is a good game and it is hard to walk away from this aspect of it but like Shanker said it’s clear that twinking is over. I personally logged dozens of messages on Blizz forums, sent emails, logged tickets and even phoned Blizz. There’s not much else that can be done. So if you’re a 49 transfer to Ruin and enjoy it for the next six months or level your character/create a new one and get over it.
Wow. I go out of town for a week, and I come back to the “twink titanic”.
I agree that twinking as we know it is dead. And good riddance. Long live the new twink order.
I’d rather play with people who want twink-only battlegrounds, and are willing to organize to do it.
I’d rather play with people who understand that if they’re going to pay $150-$180 a year for a WoW account, plus ISP fees (or general fees if you’re in college or university), a transfer fee is acceptable.
I’d rather play with people who aren’t as concerned with web traffic as they are sharing a gameplay choice with others, and helping them to learn the ropes.
I think 3.2 is the best damn thing to happen to twinking, and if there aren’t enough people to sustain twinking in this patch, then it deserves to die. But instead, I’m seeing more life and more coordination in each bracket than I *ever* saw before.
It took 3.2 to shine a light on twinking, and frankly, some of what we discovered about the twinking community disappointed me, but that was expected. More importantly, I see much more of the motivation and action from those who embody the excellence I’ve come to expect from top-class twinks.
I’m looking forward to 3.2.2 for battlegrounds with fair starts. I’m looking forward to getting my 59 into action and learning a new bracket. And I’m looking forward to more maturity on the twink battlefields.
May TwinkInfo encourage ever more people to twinking.
Bwappo
39’s are very active on Nightfall. There are games going every night. I encourage you to get over there and enjoy some Warsong.
Level 60 vanilla twinking is gaining in popularity as well. It appears to be a “loophole” in that exp battlegrounds still allow level-capped players. Twinks always find the loopholes.
However, the writing is on the wall. Twinking is a part of WoW that could have survived for many years after endgame content became stale or discontinued, and instead Blizzard has tried to kill it. The devs even mock us in the forums. What is so fucking wrong with just wanting to play some capture the flag instead of constantly grinding for gear?
This article is full of so much epic win that I’ve copied it!
“I was in toprated arena teams during TBC, and I was in a top 10 PvE guild during Vanilla, but none of that can compete with fun I had playing my twinks. It simply has a magical appeal to me, and I hope some of you feel the same way. I could level to 80 and become the 99999999th player with full ulduar gear. I could do rated arena again and ride Ghostcrawler’s Get Wotlk’d rollercoaster every new season. I could kill my social life and join a top PvE guild. I could join a Warsong Gulch full of random honorfarming players I don’t know, while hoping that this time half the team ain’t afk. Fuck that shit, I’ll play my twink – thank you very much.”
This is the quote of the month, maybe the year!
Ishh ftw!
thanks for posting
You have made me want to start playing again. Im not sure what class I want to play. Played mage before.
Ishh: What server are you on? I cant find you in Jonnhy Berlin guild.
I agree with most of what you said till you got to the pwndepot part.
Pwndepot didnt die because they were all about ganking noobs or w/e, pwndepot died because thats where all the elitest pricks who know what they’re actually talking about reside.
Like it or not, most people who twink are absolutely horrible, and the pwndepot crowd made fun of them and drove them away to here.
The people here who made fun of people for being terrible all got banned (crits, lloyd, phazz in 29s) leaving twinkinfo at least in 29s with a bunch of people who have no idea what they’re talking about.
Since most twinks are terrible, and have no idea what they’re talking about, they love a site where everyone can be just as bad as they are, and pat them on the back for their terrible gear choices.
Pwndepot died because they’re the elitest jerks of twinking, and there arent enough elitest jerks to go around in the twinking community
in my experience being a jerk is NOT a laudable achievement .. be you skilled or unskilled .. being a jerk only creates animosity and in the end gets you nothing but enemies .. or friends of other asses and jerkoffs..
I personally have always prefered twinkinfo as it was a civilized place to research twinking
epeen retarded jerks are one of the reasons twinks are held in such low regard by most other players.. its the vocal minority that give the quiet majority such bad rep.
something we could do with less of is trolls, flamers, and malicious postings. if pwndepot held such attitude as the “standard of behaviour” its just as well they failed.
“Pwndepot didnt die because they were all about ganking noobs or w/e, pwndepot died because thats where all the elitest pricks who know what they’re actually talking about reside.”
Of course! I mean if you have the best product, best information available and the most knowledgeable base of users out of the dozens of twink websites that have existed you’re bound to fail!
Only the best fails dontchaknow.
“Of course! I mean if you have the best product, best information available and the most knowledgeable base of users out of the dozens of twink websites that have existed you’re bound to fail!
Only the best fails dontchaknow.”
You obv never went to pwndepot back when it was alive.
Twinkinfo is full of kids that think TLA > CM, and when people make fun of them for being dumb, they get banned.
I’ve seen threads in the 29 bracket here, where everyone agrees on something being “correct” when its completely retarded.
Things like that would never happen at pwndepot, because the retardness would have been flamed to death, and the correct answer would arise, even if it was stated in an abrasive manner.
Here at twinkinfo, all the people who know the “correct” information got banned by drayner. (at least in 29s)
Yah, not to sure why twinkinfo is measuring it self to Pwndepot… Who has more registered users ? Who was here first ? Who did Drayner feed off of for site ideas?
Was a detailed post, but unessecary to bring in pwndepot stats… They must be the better site, otherwise why would this “Ish” turkey compare ? Lil insecure about the site now that Drayner took a step back ?
You don’t need to try and convince us about the state of twinks, we are twinks too and are witnessing the same changes you are and feeling the same emotions you are too… We just can’t post on the main with our own mundane details. Borderline ignorant and slightly informative. Up above, one touched base on the metaphors. Entertaining slighly, but obtuse to the fullest.
More thought into your next piece and it might pan out positive. As well, don’t bring in other sites and their traffic. You make this site appear transparent and insecure with its own status it has created… A tad Emo, thus my negative comments…
Unless some one asks for change, keep your 2 cents to your self and bring twink related news, not a one sided biased opinion. Thers an old saying are like assholes, every one has one. Fill in the blank >.<
Hell of a post, i love it… the more i read the more i want to x-fer to ruin, maybe some day i will
@ OP Ishh: Sorry this comment is so late, but I just wanted to commend you on an excellent post.
/cheer
/salute
/cast Vanish
LVL 39 EU = CYCLONE
(A) Silvermoon
(H) Ravencrest
20€ and we come back at old times
pd wasn’t always horrible and it’s probably only thanks to good mods like X that it stayed popular for so long. just a shame comicus went insane.
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